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  A Must Read Update on WBTS and Darkspilver from reddit

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  2. friends

  many of us know that watch tower (yes, two words in this case) has issued a subpoena to reddit to try to gain darkspilver's identity due to accusations of copyright infringement:.

  tl;dr: on april 9, watch tower filed a response to the eff's motion to quash (filed march 26) regarding the subpoena submitted to reddit in an attempt to find /u/darkspilver's identity.. the wt response is publicly available here as a pdf, from the site court listener.. a number of other documents relating to the case are available on the same site, here.. and the eff's motion to quash is available on the eff's website here.. details: as i'm sure many of us know, watch tower (yes, two words in this case) has issued a subpoena to reddit to try to gain /u/darkspilver's identity due to accusations of copyright infringement.

  specifically, watch tower is claiming copyright infringement for two things: first, darkspilver posted the back page of the november 2018 watchtower which was an article entitled "what gift can we give to jehovah?” which explained how to donate.

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  Nathan Natas

  One important point that needs to be made, I think, is that after a legally-defined period of time ALL copyrights will eventually EXPIRE, and when the copyright expires, the original work is said to be "in the public domain," which means that a person can use those public domain works in any way they choose.

  An example - someone I know very well produced the "Watchtower Book Shelf" CDs and (maybe) DVDs a number of years ago. This was popularly known as "The Watchtower BS CD" for poetic reasons. It contained PUBLIC DOMAIN Watchtower publications - early books that were never properly (according to the laws then in effect) copyrighted by the WTB&TS goofballs.

  Another example is the CDs of VERY OLD Zion's Watch Tower magazines. Those original magazines are in the PUBLIC DOMAIN.

  Here's an interesting thing: The ORIGINAL works are in the PUBLIC DOMAIN, but the NEW publication of those old magazines in a NEW MEDIA is under a NEW copyright -- you cannot make copies of ZWT CDs and distribute (pirate) them. If you do, you might need to hire a lawyer to defend you!

  Someday in the future, those ZWT CDs will come into the PUBLIC DOMAIN, and then they can be burned into holographic crystals such as Superman has in his Library in The Fortress of Solitude. When that day comes, UADNA will be there!
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  Does Anyone Remember Mr. Coffee

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the apostate that hung around bethel back in the early 1970's.. i talk about "the frog" and "lady margret" in my book but knew nothing about "mr. coffee".

  any help please.

  new boy.

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  Nathan Natas

  You mean this guy?

  
  
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  A Must Read Update on WBTS and Darkspilver from reddit

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of us know that watch tower (yes, two words in this case) has issued a subpoena to reddit to try to gain darkspilver's identity due to accusations of copyright infringement:.

  tl;dr: on april 9, watch tower filed a response to the eff's motion to quash (filed march 26) regarding the subpoena submitted to reddit in an attempt to find /u/darkspilver's identity.. the wt response is publicly available here as a pdf, from the site court listener.. a number of other documents relating to the case are available on the same site, here.. and the eff's motion to quash is available on the eff's website here.. details: as i'm sure many of us know, watch tower (yes, two words in this case) has issued a subpoena to reddit to try to gain /u/darkspilver's identity due to accusations of copyright infringement.

  specifically, watch tower is claiming copyright infringement for two things: first, darkspilver posted the back page of the november 2018 watchtower which was an article entitled "what gift can we give to jehovah?” which explained how to donate.

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  Nathan Natas

  Copyright is NOT about protecting only the right to profit from one's work.

  The idea is that if a person creates something - art, a book, a religious screed, the person who creates the work is entitled to have some say into how that work gets used. Don't believe me? DO SOME RESEARCH.

  Now, for a time, times, and half a time the Watchtower was STUPID. They believed their own nonsense about the end of the world and so they did not follow the law about getting copyright protection back in the early days.

  The Laws have changed and have become much more liberal, thanks to the efforts of Sonny Bono and the American Rock n' Roll Music Industry.

  "That's life... that's what all the people say... you're flyin' high in April, SHOT DOWN in May..."

  Finkelstein said, "...In legal terms there has to be an obvious intent to cultivate money by the accused."

  NOPE, you are WRONG. Quote me the LAW that uphold your opinion, please, Finkelstein.
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  How many would leave the organization right now if the shunning rule was removed?

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dream scenario: everyone is made aware of all the wrongs, the false prophecies / csa problem / double standards - .

  and they would not shun, how many would jump ship?.

  my parents are fully aware of the sins of the org.

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  Nathan Natas

  My Magic-8 Ball says, "...about 112%, give or take."

  These demons are SO DAMNED accurate!
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  Consummed

  by Hobbittz in

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  i am head over heels in love with a man who was raised jw.

  i believe he is fighting demons, however, and is torn between what his heart wants to do, his beliefs, his depression & lack of self confidence.

  he has had 2 wives.

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  Nathan Natas

  Hobbittz, mark this day on your calendar as the day you ruined your life.

  Congratulations!

  The GOOD THING about this is that _I_ will beable to drive past the trainwreck you will soon find entangling you and _I_ will be able to think, "WOW! I'm glad that isn't me!"

  So YOU GO GIRL!

  [/Troll detector: OFF/]
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  Julián Assange—What’s Your Opinion of His Situation?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you think he’s a hero?

  do you sympathize with him or do you feel he’s really a bad guy?.

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  It has been suggested by some of Julian's associates that Julian adopted the cat to enhance Julian's public image and the people in the embassy have said that the cat was not well cared-for and was moved out of the embassy about a year ago. The embassy sad,"We're not a pet store."

  By most accounts, Julian wore out his welcome in the Embassy pretty thoroughly.
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  So I've been warned about whether I should reveal my feelings of a Deity

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all i have to say about that is that i agree with the following quote attributed to marcus aurelius:.

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  Nathan Natas

  If you find yourself with feelings for a Deity, try practicing sublimation; drink hrb tea and spend more time in service, take cold showers.

  Oh, you said

  "feelings of a Deity."

  Nevermind!
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  Julián Assange—What’s Your Opinion of His Situation?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  do you think he’s a hero?

  do you sympathize with him or do you feel he’s really a bad guy?.

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  Nathan Natas

  I'm concerned about his cat.

  
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  Does anyone here have connections to JW in Lebanon?

  by Minae in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i want to report a jw member (lebanon) for some issues.

  can anyone help?.

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  Nathan Natas

  Remember the fifteen witness rule: unless everyone in Lebanon saw the offense and has it on film, it don't count and the Branch Office will advise that you not bother them. If it is a serious offense like murder or mutual masturbation, YOU will be set on fire in the Public Square, then the WTB&TS will find that there is no accuser and the offender will be consoled for the ordeal they endured with faithfulness like unto Daniel in the belly of Jonah in the belly of a whale riding on a giant turtle under a tangerine sky.

  If there is no Public Square, one will be built for you, then sold for a profit to the Church of Scientology.

  [/droll humor/ OFF]
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  So I've been warned about whether I should reveal my feelings of a Deity

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  all i have to say about that is that i agree with the following quote attributed to marcus aurelius:.

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  Nathan Natas

  Always remember that The Universal Architect and Creator of All Things is an emotional being with feelings as delicate as a May-fly, and will pitch one Hell of a Shit-Fit if you don't think of Him constantly!